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Wiles says Vance has been a ‘conspiracy theorist for a decade’

White House chief of staff Susie Wiles said in a sweeping interview published Tuesday that Vice President Vance has been a “conspiracy theorist” for a decade.

Wiles made the remarks during a Vanity Fair interview in which she discussed various administration officials’ understanding of how important President Trump’s base of supporters considered the release of the Jeffrey Epstein files.


“The people that really appreciated what a big deal this is are Kash [Patel] and [FBI Deputy Director] Dan Bongino,” Wiles told author Chris Whipple.

“Because they lived in that world. And the vice president, who’s been a conspiracy theorist for a decade,” she continued. “For years, Kash has been saying, ‘Got to release the files, got to release the files.’ And he’s been saying that with a view of what he thought was in these files that turns out not to be right.”

Wiles’s remarks were part of a notably candid interview in which the chief of staff spoke openly about other administration officials. 

In the same interview, Wiles said she believed Attorney General Pam Bondi “whiffed” on understanding how important the release of the Epstein files is to Trump’s base. 

“I think she completely whiffed on appreciating that that was the very targeted group that cared about this,” Wiles said. 

“First she gave them binders full of nothingness. And then she said that the witness list, or the client list, was on her desk. There is no client list, and it sure as hell wasn’t on her desk,” she continued.

In November, Trump signed the Epstein Files Transparency Act after the legislation passed with bipartisan support in the Senate and the House. The law gives the Justice Department 30 days to release the majority of the files.